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Elizabeth's avatar

I love so much about this interview and want to talk about my grandmother’s obsession with collecting cardboard boxes and wrapping supplies to reuse that I have inherited (who needs a small trunk of already curled curling ribbon???) but first:

This is the perfect opportunity to put my brilliant new store idea out there and hopefully one of you beautiful people will be inspired! You don’t even have to pay me royalties just knowing it exists would make me happy. So I’m thinking, what we need is the opposite of Costco—I like to call it Minico! With two thirds of American households made up of one to two people, there should be a huge market (pun unintentional) for small sizes of things. I am specifically interested in half bags of marshmallows (no one can finish a full bag making s’mores for one child!), 4 oz containers of sour cream, and half bundles of cilantro. Let’s make this happen!!!

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Laura C's avatar

This is beautiful, thanks.

I think a fair bit about hoarders because we have an immediate neighbor who is one -- every couple years our condo association forces her to hire a clean-out crew and then within days she's back bringing carts full of stuff into her place. I don't know her well enough to have any guess at what motivates her, but I know it hurts her -- her adult child will occasionally visit but I don't think she'll go inside the apartment. (The one time I've been inside, to help with something my neighbor couldn't reach, the smell alone was powerful reason not to go in.)

At some point I did some errands for a former coworker who was largely homebound and she apologetically said that some apartment inspection had classified her as one of the lower stages of hoarder and I looked around and said something like "I know a serious hoarder. You're just a person who's had a full life that doesn't quite fit into the size of apartment you have now."

That's something I think a lot about -- how the amount of space you have (related directly to the amount of money you have, in most cases) can determine how you're viewed on this front. Of course some people, like the grandfather and father described here, are so extreme that no amount of money could cover it up. But, like, when I met her, my mother-in-law was in an impeccable, beautifully decorated 4,000 square foot home -- and when she went to downsize, it turned out that out of sight of the clean surfaces and lack of clutter, there was So Much Stuff. Every cabinet, every closet was jammed full. She gave us bags of old mail she'd never passed along to my husband, like years of bank statements and wedding invitations, and a stray tax document for one of his cousins who'd used her as an address during college. There was a big basement storage room filled with furniture from her previous 7,000 square foot house -- she didn't have room to use it but hadn't wanted to get rid of it. So she had this massive amount of stuff, but it was invisible. She hired an organizer and took weeks or months paring it down. Which she did, but as long as her space allowed it, her inclination had been to hold onto everything.

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