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One thing I believe has changed drastically is the price of staying in any sort of cabin. People who have family cabins can reproduce the sorts of experiences children had in my youth or in my children's youth, but rentals now, regardless of how modest, that are anywhere near water or a national park are completely out of reach cost-wise for most families who cannot camp.

When we want to go away now, it can never be for more than, say, three nights, because of the price of any sort of accommodation with cooking facilities and a refrigerator. And it would be once a year maximum.

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I am curious about the consistency of the memories of 1980s family vacations on this thread (mine match too!) What can explain it? My family - including my parents - now have more flying, international, etc trips, whereas in my childhood, it was camping or car trips to family. I remember once we stayed at a Hilton in Indianapolis on a road trip because everything else was full and it was like the fanciest of fancy, and my parents were anxious about the cost.

One thing I have usually ascribed it to in my case is class. I grew up lower middle class (military, one income). But then I went to college out east to an Ivy, first in my extended family to do anything like that, and then grad school, academia, and and. I am not wealthy but I have more money than my parents did, including my partner’s salary. And I fit the “cultural elite” stereotype I guess, which is mostly about education.

But here’s the thing: Many other people I met in college who were from wealthy backgrounds had fancy family vacations in the 80s. They would not necessarily see themselves in this thread. They flew to Europe, went to summer camps, swam with turtles in the Galapagos, etc. When I went to an Ivy, it was my first experience realizing that this whole other fancy world existed.

So my question: I wonder if there is something about this thread and who reads AHP, which is an amazing group of people, as far as I can tell, that pre-selects for people “like me”, who grew up middle or working class, but through higher education now have more contact with culturally elite experiences, even if we don’t have elite budgets? In other words, is this really only a generational shift or are we also tracking some kind of class shift? I could just be reading my own personal experience onto the group, but this has always been how I attribute the difference (except for all the other points that are relevant, like internet, cheaper airfare, shift in parenting culture…)

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